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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/10/27/frustraglio-h1n1-toronto-hockey113.html
There is currently no swine flu (H1N1) more hazardous (infectious) than other flu viruses. What makes it dangerous is its presence outside the influenza season. Regarding influenza deaths, and in year-round total of ”normal“ flu breaks the pig ... But why in the U.S. and many other countries around the world announced for this ”terrible“ state of national flu threat? Because the U.S. is extremely rich riddled lobbysmem companies and their full commercial health care (which in our country wants to ODS) there destroy tens of thousands of people each year. And either financially or unavailability of its poorer ones. It pays to finance it as the Ukrainian government to do the advertising light, however, they spent the money within a few months back, from countries which have available funds to purchase expensive ”protection“ ...
I do not know how this boy died, but I think that his memory does not deserve to be dishonored for otherone's business ... Maybe I'm wrong, then sorry ... |
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| Awww so sad, SadlyI'm sure he's amongst many who have suffered and passed away from the H1N1. |
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| Actually, as far as I've read, the only danger is the respiratory effect. People with allergy problems, azthma, or a history of pneumonia have had the worst cases and are at highest risk of dying (like myself, I have two of those three). This kid only had a small cold once and it still affected him. |
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The highest risk yes are those with other chronic diseases, the elderly, infants and, surprisingly teenagers.
My beef with the money-mongering drug companies is that there was months of workup to this. Dangerous flu season, dangerous H1N1, everyone get vaccinated, yet again there's not enough vaccinations to go around. They turn the vaccination process into something like trying to get a Cabbage Patch doll in the 80's, remember that? It feels like a game to me, all that foreknowledge yet vaccinations hard to get. Right.
In my area the regular flu vaccine was finally available this past week at my work, and we're supposed to get them first along with the elderly and infants due to being health care workers. Too late for me, since I missed work all week with the flu.  |
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| I've already had it a few weeks back and I can tell you it's horrible. Wasn't deadly to me or anything but it's the worst kind of flu I've ever had and I really thought I was gonna go psycho at one point because of the non stop fever. Got a call to get 2 vaccination shots now this week and then early December.. kind of on the late side. =\ |
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You had it, Ashlene? lol, can you tell me more? I still believe, that H1N1 really dont exist... maybe is that because i live in Europe, and we have different eyes here, but i am very interrested about that... can you tell me the exact diagnosis of your treating doctor? Of course if you want... According to modern biology, the process of learning consists of many natural range of incentives and the creation of dendrite, branching throughout life (”Neural information storage“), i cannot believe that something what was here first time viewed max. in less than one year, can pandemia be in that time...
so, it must be artificial, or cannot exist... in fact, you Ashlene are first person who said indirectly to me "i had it" ... |
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I'm with Abu, so many times around here there is always a "bug going round" not a single day goes by without one. The fact that the media is screaming there heads off about H1N1 just means people have a label to give it, they get paranoid because some poor kid died elsewhere with similar symptoms and make themselves even worse, making them believe even harder that it is in fact Swine Flu.
So yeah, I'm a tad skeptical over whether it is as abundant as they say. It just seems like a load of gullible people whining louder than usual over a common cold. |
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Well I got sick and uhm, normally I ignore it until it goes away but lol! It didn't and progressed so when my fever peaked higher than I've ever had it before, I rang my doctor up. They did a house-call because I wasn't allowed to come to the clinic.. walked in with masks (like wtf?!), did their regular diagnosis tests and said plain and simply. "Yep, you've got the H1N1 virus." And that's what freaked me out. Not so much because it's H1N1 but because it was blown up so big in the media with all these terifying and deadly stories. Either ways.. the reason it was horrible for me personally is because I had an underlying throat infection that flared up big time combined with the virus and I just couldn't find peace. I couldn't rest, but staying up was too draining as well and sleeping never worked because of my fever and throat ache and the feeling that you can't breath because you're all stuffy. All in all though.. H1N1 is just another flu virus and the only real difference is the fact that it's far more contagious. Most death cases so far were all people who already were in the hospital for something else, had a weak kink in their immune system or were due to age/health in the risk group. I think without the 'hysteria' and the way it's blown up in the media.. it wouldn't be half as big of a deal and scary for people. And Abu, I'm in Europe too.  It's real, but it's not as terifying as it's portraited. I'm not even going to bother getting the vaccination. |
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I watch the main evening news from 23 hours a day in the Canadian television. Last month, misses on which it was recalling the swine flu. A month ago this information was communicated in the middle of reports and its duration usually varied between one to two minutes. Gradually shifted increasingly towards the start and its duration lengthened. Last week the information about influenza major newspapers and television news reports half-hour takes about ten minutes early. In the following half-hour in the regional reports from the swine flu, 23:30 recalling again (even the often repeated the same footage) at least five minute block. Well, repetitio est Mater Studiorum.
TV report on the progress of the virus H1N1 in Canada has a solid structure. Usually consists of a long shot many people waiting for their vaccinations somewhere in the city in Canada, few details about how the needle enters the arm most of the child, then again look at the long line of waiting, followed by the monologue of a specialist who says something about meaning that the quantity of vaccines for all Canadians not yet enough, but it is to order and will not be enough. A advise to let people vaccinated, especially children, pregnant women and elderly. Sometimes this is fixed interleaved sequence of information that not all Canadians want to vaccination (more than half are rejected, admitted even once a week), yesterday reached so far that showed a young man who is so against vaccination, that he himself copy Information leaflets against vaccination and distributing them on the street. Fortunately, after the shots followed by an interview with a doctor who strongly condemned such behavior, called it irresponsible and even dangerous. The young man's terrorist is yet did not score, but who knows, maybe by the end of the week to settle.
Some days back, and the usual ten-block enriched news of the death of a thirteen year old boy. Sunday he went to hockey training, made him sick, he went to the doctor, he diagnosed it as a cold and sent him home the next day the boy was dead. Swine flu. Just knew it. He was a heart wrenching interview with the boy's parents, who regretted that he did not leave time vaccination. Only after this ”insert“ followed the usual shots of the series waiting.
Although in the same block said that nine out of ten deaths from the disease is due to some other previous health problems, although added that the chances of death due to swine influenza is 1:250 000, the two pieces were buried in a way which is completely block broadcast.
I must admit that the way in which we pour into the head of this report is highly sophisticated and effective. They exist. They do not say ”you have to be immunized. No, they simply show the day after the date again and again, images of other people, such as sheep waiting in line, and one has a feeling that they are actually waiting for a normal (I see a number of number of beautiful young people, children, well-dressed couples) and that those who are vaccinated will not let something escape. Play at the herd instinct. Hundred times repeated information, whether true or not, you vpije under the skin. Thoroughly.
And now listen, Ashlenne... At home, I found on the Internet, how do I identify the virus H1N1. In Canada, it makes only one laboratory, namely the National Microbiological Laboratory in Winnipeg. All samples to be sent there. The results take between one and five days. This was the situation in May tr, it is conceivable that has since expanded the number of laboratories performing these tests.
In British Columbia and Ontario are doing pre-test called PCR. The test lasts eight hours. PCR is polymerázní chain reaction (polymerase chain reaction) and is a DNA amplification technique, in which are generated millions of copies of a DNA sequence used to identify the virus. If the test is positive for influenza type A, it takes another 8 to 12 hours of determining whether the seasonal flu or not. If this is not a seasonal flu, we need another 4 to 8 hours for sequencing (sequence) to determine whether the H1N1.
It is obvious that not a single test, but a series of at least three fairly demanding tests, not only on time. I suppose that will also be very expensive.
I got into a situation where I do not know which is true. The way in which propaganda is conducted on the vaccine, is extremely sophisticated and perfect. When every day I look at those long line waiting for vaccinations, I wonder if I'm right and if they do not end right. I can not believe that it ran so well organized genocide of the human population live in front of my eyes. Could they get away. If the proponents of conspiracy theories are correct, it would mean that all these people would be vaccinated for some time with his health problems. Maybe a few years. In five, ten, who knows. Probably not start mass die off, it would be too obvious, but appears to have various health problems. Various health problems will mean higher costs for health care and especially the increased consumption of drugs. Who will benefit? Yes, those same who produced the vaccine. Would it be possible? I do not know. Something tells me so. But it would be evil, eh? But it is also consistent with the wishes of ”elites“ to reduce the size of the population on the planet. Is there a plan? Could.
Maybe... People start to fade after a few years due to vaccination. Will die prematurely. Who will last the other hand, will be those who use their head and refused to be immunized. Result: In the population, fewer sheep, thinking people will be added (percentage). Do you think it would be possible? I do not know. But the kind of evolution works.
And one more interesting findings. I read the Russian press day (of course translated). It looks like the mad pandemic virus H1N1 Russia somehow avoided. Articles about her at least as I know, and no mass vaccination of the Russian government horizon. Is not that strange? |
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| Abu, my friends cousin in NZ died I think they put it... With the H1N1 virus but not as a result of it!! Make of that what you will. |
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| Abu wrote: | You had it, Ashlene? lol, can you tell me more? I still believe, that H1N1 really dont exist... maybe is that because i live in Europe, and we have different eyes here, but i am very interrested about that... can you tell me the exact diagnosis of your treating doctor? Of course if you want... According to modern biology, the process of learning consists of many natural range of incentives and the creation of dendrite, branching throughout life (”Neural information storage“), i cannot believe that something what was here first time viewed max. in less than one year, can pandemia be in that time...
so, it must be artificial, or cannot exist... in fact, you Ashlene are first person who said indirectly to me "i had it" ... |
The Swine Flu (H1N1) does exist and is not new. My mom told me this is not the first time has happened when she was younger not sure how old, maybe in the 70's? But, it became an epidemic and she recalls it being horrible then and people died from it. It may not have been all over the news like it is today but it exist like any other disease and there are more people on the earth now and it will spread through the news fast because we are humans and imperfect and yeah? we do get afraid. News is important, but, you do not have to watch it everyday, it just make people depressed. I personally, will not discuss with you who had it or if I get it because it's my business. So to answer your question this didn't just pop up this year. But, like Vivy said make of it what you will your allowed your opinion. |
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Ok... i still talking about H1N1 type A, infecting humans. This type of H1N1 was recorded first time in march this year (2009) in Mexico... so i dont know what was here in 1970´s ... and maybe you dont understand me, i am only saying that all this thing is too elevated. Yes, its my opinion, and i only think, that this is next bullshit of this world, like WWII (US arrives inside), Iran 1952 when the democratically elected Mossadegh who was elected and events after... Guatemala 1954 When Arbenz became president and events after... Ecuador 1981, Panama 1981, Venezuela 2002, Iraq 2003, and of course Afganistan (“Before 1980, Afghanistan produced 0% of the world’s opium.
After the US/CIA backed Mujahadeen won the Soviet/Afghan war. by 1986 they were producing 40% of the world’s heroin supply.
By 1999, they were producing 80% of the total market supply.
But then, something unexpected happened.
The Taliban rose to power, and by 2000 they had destroyed most of the opium fields.
Production dropped from 3.000+ tons to only 185 tons, a 94% reduction.
On Sept. 9th 2001, the full Afghanistan invasion plans were on President Bush’s Desk
Two days later they had their excuse
Today, opium productions in US controlled Afghanistan,
which now provides more than 90% of the world’s heroin, breaks new production records nearly every year.” – Source Washington Post and UNODC Report)... i am only saying that exist people who need something, and people who believe them are their instruments, like now with H1N1. Everything is business and moneymaking, and they kill too many people, which is needed to have profit. |
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| I wish I could say it does not exist but current 9 people in my city ALONE have died from H1N1 including 23 more cases. Some of the ones who died, were as healthy as horse and seems to be affecting children,teens, and young adults more. |
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Hey Abu- I'm starting to agree with you on the immunization propeganda, however I do think it still works.
Regardless- I think that in a few hundred years, when we all have vaccines to everything and our immune systems are weak, a common cold will kill us all.  |
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| KH wrote: | Hey Abu- I'm starting to agree with you on the immunization propeganda, however I do think it still works.
Regardless- I think that in a few hundred years, when we all have vaccines to everything and our immune systems are weak, a common cold will kill us all. :P |
LOL! How very uplifting  But I do agree! Let's just get sick properly every now and again, it's more healthy. |
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| Agree whole-heartedly on that one! I know several of my friends who were brought up being wrapped in cotton wool, they get ill all the blooming time.. Then there's me who was brought up on a farm and was in the stables mucking out with my Mother from a young age. I can't remember the last time I was properly ill, even the common cold only lasts about a day before clearing up |
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Even ended the era of dictatorships and totalitarian systems. Maybe finished in classic form, as we know it from the 20th century, but is born a new, far more sophisticated ways to control the company and requires alertness, caution, prudence, learning, perspective... Not only noding with heads at all as sheeps ...  |
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| Many remember the pioneering leader, lit building socialism. Today, like burning people see in human youth, nonprofits, companies whose friendship with the people of the United States. Who are these enthusiastic builders and pillars of each mode? Their support for each of the current establishment gives the feeling that the people without a backbone, but it is not so. The people do in fact ever occur. In any mode, you start to build your micro ratty. Born to understand the context and certainly not to change anything. There are so happy minister. Nicely describes the cartoon in the introduction article. In their heads was the insurgency omissions. Some of these can the education, two universities and still fail to understand the context or in the field have learned. How can someone 5 years studying economics, 20 years to do in the field and not once was examining how to take money from. One of these is able 20 years to transmit 1 / 4 of their income on any savings, pension or insurance and does not intend to ever be the kind of value after 20 years will see. So why change their lives, is still only about ours! |
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| If someone still interrested... google it what said Wolfgang Wodarg, head of the health section of the Council of Europe in last days about... |
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You know, this is gonna get me slapped by someone....
...but I was just given my H1N1 immunization..... |
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| [---- public school teacher ... I got mine the first day it was available. |
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